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#1 Seville (Elgore)

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 06:50 AM

I'm currently working on a thief build and would like to know if some of my assumptions are correct before I really go for it.

 

Stats with LVL 48 (My current Level) Gear with no buffs other than the Fortune aura (Also only at LVL 48 for the character)

 

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Cooldowns?

Does dexterity/attack speed affect cooldowns?

 

Dodge Effectiveness?

How good is dodge? 

Is it worth having a super high dodge or will it be useless at higher levels?

 

I have almost all the gear I need,I just need to get a few more cards and wax a few seals to be better than what they are right now.

I just wanted to get a few outside opinions on the stats of this build before I trash my current one (Just a pure low attack high defense tank thief)


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#2 Ragedrop (Elgore)

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 01:02 PM

Hello, I can just give my personal Opinion here:

Cooldowns : Dex / atack speed does not affect them at all.

Dodge Effect : In general dodge works in a 1 vs 1 Situation if you really max it cause 1 single person rarely has enough burst to kill you within their own CC combo - once endgear arrives that becomes a different story.

 

Also since you are meele the high atackspeed coupled with no Health, small Heals and beeing right in anyones face (players or bosses) gets you killed in a heartbeat.

 

Just personal expirience with high Dex Meele Builds : Its amazing to look at the speed of the weapons - but it is an armor scratcher at most sadly.


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Posted 09 February 2017 - 01:16 PM

In my opinion dodge is better than def now when it comes to PVP since Destructor card now is more common than me getting an orange seal.

 

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Posted 09 February 2017 - 07:53 PM

Dex can work in a sense that your weapons have good base attack speed by themselves and that you have good enough gear to not get cc-locked and die. My friend made this full out and had ~280 dex and 300% attack speed, I think he managed to get 20 hits a second laugh.png

 

 Other than that its good for pve, and pvp you could be around 150-170% speed and still be good enough to dish out the damage with skills, as the skill speed is faster


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 02:44 AM

I don't have a thief leveled, but if I did have one leveled up all the way and was going full pve attack speed is what I'd be doing. Get a pipistrelle card, and all the vampirism seals, Rex everywhere else you can manage, and health/crit everywhwre else. This would result in a massive amount of attacls and health gained each second, especially because(as far as I know) vampirism seals prof on your offhand weapon, if that's a dagger....you're talking about hundreds of health a second, while obliterating you targets, the health allows for tanking :), you get chunked down, then super fast heal it back :)

#6 El-Violador (Elgore)

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 08:28 PM

Well, the dex is not a bad idea, works nice for pve, but in pvp... meh
Look, is kinda good because dex>dodge(each time u dodge an enemy hit u get 1 cunning) the heal of the thief needs cunning but the skills like sudden strike use cunning too, so the player needs to choose between attack or heal, but u would have much cunning everytime because of the dex, then u can use cunning for heal & attack speed, also with massacre skill would be nice.
Your problem would be the massive attacks & cc, but u can try passive "escape" and illusion cards.
This is nice vs warriors & assasins maybe, but other class have better massive skills that make them able to kill you, so u should try to get defense seals & dexterity, acorn seal is a perfect in this case.
Good luck : D

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